Oct 9th, 2008
Posted by Larry Schwartztol, National Security Project at 3:29pm	National Security

Surveillance Gone Amok

In pushing for ever-expanding and unaccountable surveillance authority, the Bush Administration has assured the public that it aims its spying capabilities at serious security threats. But as two government whistleblowers recently revealed to ABC News, surveillance programs touted as critical to protect national security have in fact been used to monitor the private communications of innocent Americans abroad, including humanitarian workers and U.S. service-members. While disturbing, ABC's report confirms a core contention of the ACLU's lawsuit challenging Congress's recent expansion of governmental spying powers: unchecked surveillance authority invades the privacy of innocent Americans, and in doing so, fundamentally undermines the efforts of human rights workers, journalists, and attorneys doing important work around the globe.

Two former military intercept operators — the people who actually intercept, monitor, and collect international telephone and email communications — told ABC News that "hundreds of US citizens overseas have been eavesdropped on as they called friends and family back home." The operators worked for the National Security Agency ("NSA"), the spy agency chiefly responsible for international surveillance. They report that NSA routinely listened in on the innocent, and sometimes intimate, conversations of Americans abroad. There were apparently no effective procedures in place to filter out these kinds of communications.

The NSA program went beyond invading the personal privacy of Americans abroad (and their friends and family on the other end of the line). NSA also directed its surveillance powers at well-established humanitarian organizations, like the International Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders. As one whistleblower told ABC News: "We knew they were working for these aid organizations. . . . And yet, instead of blocking these phone numbers we continued to collect on them."

The ACLU's lawsuit challenging Congress's recent expansion of surveillance authority, Amnesty International v. McConnell, shines a spotlight on the devastating effect of unchecked spy power on Americans doing indispensable work around the globe. The lawsuit challenges the FISA Amendment Act, which gives the government nearly unfettered access to Americans' international communications (and in some instances, purely domestic communications) without any of the judicial oversight normally required under the Constitution. Unleashing surveillance authority from basic procedures designed to ensure oversight violates constitutional guarantees. But as the plaintiffs in the lawsuit demonstrate, it also damages the ability of Americans to conduct important international work.

The plaintiffs' stories illustrate what's at stake. For example, Joanne Mariner is a Program Director for Human Rights Watch, an organization renowned for its influential reporting on human rights abuses. Her areas of research require her to correspond with people all over the world, including people who have been imprisoned by the U.S. or other countries, relatives of detainees, political activist, and journalists. Many of these sources will only communicate confidentially, and for good reason: some are victims of human rights abuses, and others reasonably fear reprisals if their governments learn they are cooperating with a human rights group. If such sources believe their correspondences are likely to be intercepted by the United States — despite having no relation to terrorism or national security — those communications will simply evaporate.

Journalists face similar obstacles. Another ACLU plaintiff, Naomi Klein, is an award-winning journalist who reports on international affairs. In order to obtain comprehensive and accurate information about her subjects, she communicates with sources around the world, including foreign political activist who have been critical of the United States or their own governments. Like Mariner, Klein must guarantee her sources confidentiality because, for them, communicating honestly with a journalist brings real risks, including imprisonment or violence. When engaging in international communications with an American means the U.S. government is likely to listen in, vulnerable sources become far less forthcoming. This means that Americans lose access to fully informative journalism about world affairs.

Unfortunately, the ABC News report confirms that the concerns of Mariner and Klein, as well as other ACLU plaintiffs, are justified. In fact, international aid groups and others may face even greater exposure to illegitimate surveillance than the whistleblowers describe. The challenged surveillance law, enacted in July 2008, actually sanctions the NSA's program of spying on Americans' international communications; before the law passed, the Bush Administration was conducting such surveillance unilaterally and in violation of statutory law.

The ABC News report reaffirms another important point: the choice between ensuring safety and adhering to the Constitution is a false one. According to one of the whistleblowers — a U.S. Army Reservist who won the NSA Joint Service Achievement Medal in 2003 — over-reaching surveillance programs undermine security: "By casting the net so wide and continuing to collect on Americans and aid organizations, it's almost like they're making the haystack bigger and it's harder to find that piece of information that might actually be useful to somebody."

By confirming the abusive and harmful reach of such surveillance policies, the NSA whistleblowers illustrate the urgency of bringing the government's surveillance powers back into line with core constitutional principles. Unchecked and unaccountable, the power of surveillance quickly runs amok.

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1. rebecca i. davis Says:
   Oct 11th, 2008 at 1:18am

   It's to bad that there is not a specific organization (other than the ACLU) that monitors only the NSA. If Congress is the only agency that is responsible for monitoring the NSA then all Americans are in serious trouble. When the government fails to follow the laws then why should anybody else? The gov't is setting a terrible example.

2. dci Says:
   Oct 14th, 2008 at 6:12pm

   This has all been done before, in Germany in the 30's and in Russia in the 50's. Read the history.

3. Mr. Smith Says:
   Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:57pm

   There are specific rights that military members have, however, they are restricted and have chain of commands. U.S. Military communications have been known to be monitored to ensure that members are not discussing movement information and other activities that would harm the mission and potentially endanger other Americans. While serving in the military, you are a Service person 24/7 and have to abide by higher standards.

   Bet you would be screaming at the Government if an entire platoon or ship gets wiped out because someone had loose lips.

4. Ex-Army Says:
   Oct 17th, 2008 at 8:22pm

   Lets see, as a member of the military, I violated a international treaty. It was my assignment to violate it for over 4 years. I was ordered to do it. What would of happened to me if I didn't. I would have been charged and court-martialled. Today, over 27 years later, I am proud of my service but not proud of what I was ordered to do! And I was not even awarded for doing it. Go figure.

5. Adam West Says:
   Oct 17th, 2008 at 9:09pm

   I'm concerned that telecoms received immunity and yet, AT&T & Verizon are providing Israel with equipment to spy for the NSA.What in the hell does a foreign country have to do with the people who live in America?
   Indicates to me about our politicians is they'll do anything for a kickback!

6. BRENDA SIMON Says:
   Oct 18th, 2008 at 4:31am

   THIS IS VERY DISTURBING UNETHICAL SOMETHING MUST BE DONE. GOD SEES EVERYONE AND THING, WHY MUST MAN KEEP TRYING TO DESTROY THEMSELVES WITH PUNISHING OTHERS WITH THEIR IGNORANCE. PLEASE PUT AN END TO THIS SPYING ON OTHERS PRIVACY.

7. Steven Erwin Says:
   Oct 18th, 2008 at 1:09pm

   Cut Justice Justice Department budget
   severely, ASAP. NSA is extremely over
   staffed. I have complained on being
   a victim of NSA spying numerous times,
   with no probable cause. Most of the lies
   haven been created by Veteran Affairs.
   I'm a dissabled veteran/served in Desert
   Storm. I have no criminal record for my entire life/50 years.

8. Mr. Carey Says:
   Oct 18th, 2008 at 2:37pm

   In the past, "phone tapping" was required to intercept a conversation. By virtue of the available analog technology, it was much harder to just randomly pick out conversations. People of interest needed to be identified, in most cases, beforehand, in order to not waste time on irrevelant phone numbers. Now, with advances in technology, and with phone conversations traveling over wireless, analog, and fiber, they become just more digital data, available to the NSA for their perusal at will, as mirror copies of the data passing across most of the fiber trunks in this country is handed over. Being aware that this is the case for both domestic and international calls might not be a bad thing.

9. Privacy violations by Intel & CIA in Tandem Says:
   Oct 18th, 2008 at 5:39pm

   I am a naturalized citizen of USA and working for Intel corporation after completing my MS in Computer Engineering. I am a law abiding citizen and staying in USA for last eleven years. I don't have any criminal record. Recently, I have been subjected serious discrimination and racial profiling by my Employer i.e. Intel Corporation. They violated my privacy each possible way like they traces my movement and they put audio and video surveillance in my appartment. They made CIA suspicious against me and involved CIA on spying against me. They also forced me to go to mental hospital which is defacto a CIA torture camp. I have some proof on this regard and tried to get help from FBI but they are reluctant to help me since CIA would be in awkward situation for doing this.

   I am very much surprised the reach of this corporate hand in US government on violating my privacy. I need your help to bring these people in justice. Please advise me how can I have help from ACLU. I brought it to the FBI & Local law enforcement authority and they are reluctant to take my case. It sounds astounding but true. Please mail me at jpp72tx@gmail.com with your advise. Thanks and regards.

10. chambma Says:
    Oct 20th, 2008 at 3:10pm

    My guess is that they are also (and have been) listening in on domestic phone calls and e-mails, with software that targets certain key words like "bomb," etc. I think it's safe to assume that any assumption of privacy is mere illusion. I am not involved in anything illegal, but I prefer to maintain my privacy, and so I have a Tracfone, which is supposed to not be traceable, but coincidentally, because of online software failures, I can never add minutes to the thing without having to call them and give them personal information, so I assume even the Tracfone is not private.

11. gwendolyn pleasant Says:
    Oct 20th, 2008 at 4:33pm

    I am writing to you because i don't know who else to write to. i have been informed by my landlord that i am being monitored by the federal government. I don't know why and i am be monitored from my apt. My phone are taped as well as listening devices has been installed in my apt.

12. Jeff Liu Says:
    Oct 21st, 2008 at 2:37pm

    I am a live example of what would happen to a law abiding citizen when a law enforcement agency abuse its power.

    I have a perfectly clean non-criminal record. I have done nothing illegal, not even a traffic ticket. Yet they came out of nowhere and claimed I am a Chinese spy. The only thing I have that may triggered their interest was that I started out a potential lucrative Canadian Internet pharmacy, this made they very jealous. The only power they have is to label someone as a Chinese spy. So there they go. They never hesitated to wield their power whenever they could, including satisfying their jealousy hearts. My business was destroyed. For 4 plus years, and still counting, they have harrassed every aspect of my life. They have wasted tax payers close to $20 million dollars just to satisfy their personal jealous. How do I get the number? Because this is an extremely labour intensive work: they have at lease 40+ people work around me full time. They first cut off my means of making a living so that I am unemployed. Then they surround me with 40 + people so that "we would train together to obtain a job". They have used biological weapons: they poisoned me with drugs; they spread germs so that I have dermatitis diseases; they pretended to be doctors so that my disease never could get cured. They pretended to be various kinds of persons to get close to me, to influence me. To give me a hard time so that I live under pressure and tension. Their purpose is to crumble my will. All these happen without a shred of evidence that I am a Chinese spy.

    I am an immigrant. I thought as long as I don't break any law, I should be free of trouble. How wrong I have been! A law abiding good citizen is not a protection. But once they have crossed this line, who is safe in this country?

    I am looking for a lawyer to reconstitute justice to me. If you are a lawyer or know someone that can bring them to court, please contact me at (604) 216 - 8798. or email jeff_liu@alumni.sfu.ca

13. RazorHead Says:
    Nov 18th, 2008 at 6:55pm

    Look up the case file on the internet for John St. Clair Akwai (or Akwei) and Jesus Maldonado who were all victims of government surveillance systems. My group confirmed with a private detective agency the existence of microwave surveillance and the side effect of that is physical illness and it can cause auditory sounds similar to schizophrenia or depression. It is a clever way to discredit the victims. However, if you can't get legal help and know for sure who the person (people) involved in this without a doubt, but without the hard evidence to prove it, perhaps giving their identities away via a website or perhaps to 3rd party entities (foreign nations/agencies/groups) may be an effective means for retribution. Visit www.us-government-torture.com and mindcontrolforums.com

14. RazorHead Says:
    Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:24am

    Look at U.S. Patents for cochlear implants and nano-microchips for tracking. In fact there is a company out in Mexico that implants a chip the size of a grain of rice to track kidnap victims in Mexico. Another site called bugsweeps.com will show you actual pictures of chips and surveillance systems. The point is the technology is real. Michigan has a law punishing anyone for using electronic surveillance with a long prison sentence. Congressman Denis Kucinich tried to pass a law outlawing space based surveillance systems and non-lethal weapons which is being stalled by its supporters. We urge everyone to write to Mr. Kucinich and their perspective congressmen against this type of violation of civil liberties.

15. RazorHead Says:
    Nov 21st, 2008 at 11:13pm

    Correction:

    Michigan has a law in the books punishing anyone who uses microwave and non-lethal weapons for harassment and surveillance against a citizen. Also, in the Cornell library or any legal library you will find that it is legal for the government to use chemical, biological, electronic, and radiation experiments on the population for "National Security" reasons. Read the book "The Plutonium Experiments" to find out what happened during the cold war. DARPA and the government spend more money developing satellite based surveillance that can be used to harass its victims for the CIA, NSA, DOD, etc..more than the money spent to develop the atomic program. Senator John Glenn tried to pass legislation against this program however the proponents kept it alive till now.

16. TORTURE VICTIMS Says:
    Feb 22nd, 2009 at 7:58pm

    Thank you RazorHead for your posts. The fact that the following people (see below) were sent evidence and did nothing to hold criminals accountable (except firings/abrupt resignations) speaks volumes about the fact that our government and everything that it stands for, is a lie.

    How ironic that former VP Cheney appeared at President Obama's inauguration in a wheelchair, like in the movie The Good Shepherd and Coming Home. It also seemed odd that so many notable political figures began to appear with "disabilities/injuries", how "cold" McCain appeared to the opposition after the campaign and
    the strange "mistake" that Chief Justice Roberts made at the inauguration...gee could there possibly be something else going on behind the scenes that NO ONE HAS THE GUTS TO TALK ABOUT OR DO ANYTHING ABOUT?

    President Obama ran on the motto of HOPE and CHANGE yet DID NOTHING to hold the psychopathic criminals responsible for torturing innocent victims, including children, WHICH HE SAID IN PUBLIC DURING HIS CAMPAIGN, AFTER REVIEWING THE EVIDENCE, THAT IT WAS GOOD EVIDENCE AND THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. The fact that he didn't only lends credence to the fact that illegal defense programs are being used for intel/political/monetary and sadistic amusement agenda's, especially since the Banks later received a hefty "no strings" attached reward FOR NOT PLAYING BY THE RULES in addition to a Raytheon lobbyist being nominated to a top defense position (Raytheon, MITRE, Millipore, Lockheed Martin, IBM, MS, ect. have all been involved in these illegal defense programs and have benefited BILLIONS via the suffering of the innocent). NO COINCIDENCE Gov. Richardson of NM (AFRL in NM involved in Directed Energy Weaponry used on victims, see above link) bailed out then Sen. Judd Gregg who also knows about this.

    Certain political figures involved in all of this, would be wise to not make matters worse by sending out cute "double entendre" threats to people that have already gone through
    LIVING HELL, suffering physically, emotionally, financially, and spiritually. President Obama said he didn't want to go "backwards". Well, we can't go FORWARD without addressing what amounts to a long history of ongoing underground TREASON and TYRANNY against American Citizens with the perpetrators never being held accountable. Were the NAZI'S tried at Nuremberg after WWII or did the International Court say "let's not look backward, let's go forward". This amounts to TOTAL HYPOCRISY. The NAZI's said they were just doing their job too. Anyone with a shred of human decency knows IT IS WRONG to target innocent people, esp. in the the US, for what amounts to government sanctioned Underground Slavery and Tyranny. Also greatly disturbing, adding insult to injury, was the "joke" Press Sec Gibbs made about the "Cat in the Hat" which incorporates symbolic content of the mind control programs. See Cat in the Hat movie book showing symbolism, such as the RED and WHITE Lighthouse Signal Stovepipe Hat with the GRAMOPHONE HORN inside aka Victor Listening to his MASTERS Voice, FEEline Basement, and holding a "HOE". Dr. Seuss worked for Army Propaganda and had ties to Standard Oil. Also see The Tooth Book with picture of Dentist and Child in HYPNOTIC stare stating "Don't ever bite the dentist when he is getting INTO YOUR HEAD." Let us not forget the GEICO commercials either with the "feuding" Flintstones and Rubbles (Mr. SLATE anagramed is TESLA used in HARP for mind control programs), or the most recent one with the reference to the "old wrinkly dollar bill" being put into the Vending Machine to get a bag of "crisps" aka CHIPS. Buffet posted an ad on his company website Berkshire Hathaway, looking for A GENETICALLY PROGRAMMED person to replace him in the Spring of 2007. He gave a vast amount of money to Bill Gates, owner of Microsoft, who has a Worldwide VACCINATION Program. Some top Political figures have recently talked about getting rid of "Toxic Assets". Other politicians have spoke in "double entendre" language of not having to contract out and instead "growing their own". (So is that what all those FEMA camps are for, culling the CROP?) Isn't one of Russia's symbols a SICKLE? You might recall MARK FELT left notes in a FLOWER POT with an UNDER CONSTRUCTION sign in it for BOB WOODWARD. Also see Anne Giddes picture of babies in flower pots and LIFE magazine Sept. 10, 1965 CONTROL OF LIFE "AUDACIOUS EXPERIMENTS promise decades of added life, SUPERBABIES WITH IMPROVED MINDS AND BODIES AND EVEN A KIND OF IMMORTALITY." The cover shows a reference to ULTRAsonic WAVES (see MKULTRA). Children are just another Commodity to these monsters and their International Chess Game of using innocent people as pawns for their personal agenda's which obviously is not condusive to the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Emancipation Proclamation. Since NO ONE will step up to do the HONORABLE and right thing, it is obvious they are all involved in either committing, aiding, abetting or covering up what amounts to TREASON, TYRANNY and ABUSE OF POWER.

    Sort of ironic about the Mumbai attack in India at the Taj Mahal Hotel (Taj Mahal was one of the Seven WONDERS and known as the Most Beautiful Building in the World, built as a tribute for a Princess by her husband...wonder if she also had a BEAUTIFUL MIND). Oddly enough, Trump resigned from the Board of Directors recently after his Taj Mahal Gambling Casino filed for Bankrupcy. There is nothing BEAUTIFUL about a Country, whose so called Representives commit, aid, abet, or coverup the most heinous crimes against humanity and its most vulnerable citizens.

    Eric Holder said this week that WE ARE A NATION OF COWARDS (when it comes to talking about racial and "uncomfortable" issues). WHO'S THE COWARD when it comes to not doing anything about the above?
    I find it NO COINCIDENCE the recent "cute" commercials being aired for Dominoes Pizza regarding the Sec. of Taste and TASTE IS ON THE WAY then the "SHREADING OF CHEESE/DOCUMENTS", followed by the reference to MOM and BACON.

    Evidence was sent CRR/FAX/email/Telephone or hand delivered to the following:
    PRESIDENT OBAMA/FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA (hand delivered during campaign), CIA Dir. Goss, CIA Dir. Hayden, AF JCS Moseley, Army JCS Schoomaker, Navy JCS Mullen, JCS Gordon England, SOD Gates, Dod Inspector Generals Office, NSA Inspector Generals Office, FBI Civil Rights Division in DC, CounterTerrorism, Homeland Security and FBI in various other states regarding numerous correct warnings linked to massive insider trading/terrorist attacks via corrupt media (see evidence on libertyforum.org until 9-4-08), Senate Intelligence Committee Senator Feinstein and Rockefeller, House Judiciary Committee, (who said to me "You may not have gotten the response you wanted but YOU SURE DID GET A RESPONSE" regarding the numerous abrupt firings and resignations), Senator Shelby, Sen. Edwards, The Center for Constitutional Rights, ACLU, just to name a few. There have been numerous witnesses, including police officials, to the above. One Senator relayed a message in the past to a member of the Armed Services Committee (Rep. Carol Shea Porter) that if she didn't pull the funding on the illegal defense programs, that he would come down to her office and tell her to her face that she wasn't doing her job, this being after evidence was shown to her aid, that played stupid after seeing it but seemed to be suddenly enlightened after the Senator relayed his message.

    Also see Jan. 2005 NH Union Leader interview with Andrew Card which stated, "We don't need anyone talking about what the PRESIDENT IS THINKING ABOUT"...well on that note it should be known that the weaponry that was used on me and others to TORTURE US into behavoiral compliance via mobster tactics, could be used on ANYONE FOR ANY PURPOSE...thus putting our nation and the world at risk...maybe it already has.

    The following obviously does not apply to covert operations involving government sanctioned Underground Slavery: (from wiki)
    "In human participant research, one highly important topic is INFORMED CONSENT and human participant protection. There are many guidelines, all to insure that the participant is clearly informed of what the study will be, their participation, ANY POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES, THAT THEY CAN QUIT ANY TIME WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES, WHO TO CONTACT WITH QUESTIONS, and so forth. All research involving human participant should include some aspect of HUMAN PARTICIPANT PROTECTION. HSR HAS ALSO BEEN PERFORMED ON SUBJECTS WITHOUT INFORMED CONSENT, BOTH COVERTLY AND UNDER COERCION. The pretext of medical experimentation has been used as a justification for some atrocities."

    "The result of these proceedings was the Nuremberg Code. It includes the following guidelines, among others, for researchers:

    "INFORMED CONSENT IS ESSENTIAL.
    Research should be based on prior animal work.
    The risks should be justified by the anticipated benefits.
    Research must be conducted by qualified scientists.
    PHYSICAL AND MENTAL SUFFERING MUST BE AVOIDED.
    RESEARCH IN WHICH DEATH OR DISABLING INJURY IS EXPECTED SHOULD NOT BE CONDUCTED."

    "The CIA ran an extensive toxicology and chemical/biological warfare program in cooperation with the US military. The Edgewood Arsenal and US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick in Maryland were the main headquarters for such studies. At such centres, the agency developed many TOXINS, incapacitants, mind-altering substances and carcinogens. Mind-control substances were studied to facilitate interrogation and TOXINS were used as weapons in assassination. One of the TOXINS that the CIA studied extensively was derived from red algae called DINOflagellate which produces the RED TIDE." (NOTE DINO)

    "The MK-ULTRA project was a CIA run human experiment program where prisoners and unwitting subjects were administered HALLUCINOGENIC DRUGS in attempt to develop INCAPACITATING SUBSTANCES AND CHEMICAL MIND CONTROL AGENTS, in an operation run by Sidney Gottlieb. Biological-weapons specialist Frank OLSON's drink was spiked with LSD by Sidney GOTTLIEB in November 1953. He became psychotic and chronically depressed and committed suicide by jumping from the roof of his hotel ten days later." (Alleged evidence showed he was pushed out a window and murdered)

    SOUND FAMILIAR?
    Regarding Japanese Psychopathic War Criminals during WWII.

    "The test subjects were selected to give a wide cross section of the population, and included common criminals, captured bandits and anti-Japanese partisans, political prisoners, and also people rounded up by the SECRET POLICE for alleged "SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITIES" and included infants, the elderly, and pregnant women."

    "Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as VACCINATIONS, to study their effects. (SEE MERCK AFFILIATE CO. CYTRX SEC)
    Some former members of the Japanese unit
    became part of the Japanese medical establishment. One Dr. led Japan's largest pharmaceutical company. Others headed U.S.BACKED MEDICAL SCHOOLS or worked for the Japanese HEALTH ministry. One Dr. particular moved to MARYLAND to work on BIO-WEAPONS RESEARCH."

    "Many of the scientists involved WENT ON TO PROMINENT CAREERS IN
    POST-WAR POLITICS, ACADEMIA, BUSINESS, AND MEDICINE. Some were arrested by Soviet forces and tried at the Khabarovsk War Crime Trials; others, who surrendered to the Americans, WERE GRANTED AMNESTY IN EXCHANGE FOR ACCESS TO THE DATA COLLECTED BY THEM. On 6 May 1947, Douglas MacArthur, as Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, wrote to Washington that "additional data, probably can be obtained by informing Japanese involved that information will be retained in intelligence channels and will NOT be employed as 'War Crimes' evidence. The deal was concluded in 1948. Because of their brutality, their actions have now been declared by the United Nations to have been CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY." CRIMES COMMITTED WITHOUT JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS AMOUNTS TO TYRANNY.

    (From encarta)
    "TYRANNY, POWER OVER OTHERS MARKED BY CRUELTY AND ABSENCE OF JUSTICE."

    1. arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority. 2. the government or rule of a tyrant(s)
    or absolute ruler(s).

    by A. K. Dewdney
    In 2000 PNAC stated the following "coincidental" statement -“Further, the process of TRANSFORMATION, even if it brings revolutionary CHANGE, is likely to be a long one, ABSENT SOME CATASTROPHIC AND CATALYZING EVENT - LIKE A NEW PEARL HARBOR.” - Rebuilding America’s Defenses, Project for a New American Century (PNAC)

    SELLING EVERYTHING OFF THE SHIP BEFORE THEY SINK IT. Why do you think all the jobs have been shipped overseas...the enormous debt accrued during the Iraqi War and exorbidant amount of cash that was handed out with no receipts or "lost", all of which has enriched China and their military in a big way...now the mega bailouts virtually bankrupting our country and the fact that the TRUTH about what is really going on was totally exposed on libertyforum.org by ManhattanPROJECT and closed on 9-4-08 to hide it. WHY SHUT DOWN THE SITE IS THERE WAS NOTHING TO HIDE AND IF THERE IS TRULY FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY?

    The sadest part of this is the very services and aspects of our government that are supposed to be there to help people and protect them are the same ones involved in all of this.

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