Because freedom can't protect itself
The next group that should be protected against racial profiling is the older person. The older person will be pulled over strictly by their appearance. Won't matter what color they are, if you cannot be seen above the steering wheel they have you.
I am extemely sorry for the loss of those 2 young ladies, such a waste. Yes alcohol is sold to everyone, however those buying alcohol should be responsible. Unfortunately they are not.
Police park out infront of bars and wait for drunk drivers. Do you think that should be done? Perhaps they should be looking for the real criminals instead of sitting by the bar. Sometimes I wonder where are our priorities.
Does the ACLU only want us to obey the laws they deem fit? A law is a law and should be handled by the legislature if it is to be change.
Maggie, you missed the point. The fact of this drunk driver is that he was drunk. The ACLU is not saying he should not be arrested and prosecuted.
What this article was saying is that the fact of this one drunk driver being an undocumented immigrant does NOT mean that ALL undocumented immigrants are drunks and killers. That is the point.
Preventing drunk drivers from getting on the road by sitting in front of bars is okay by me, and that is not racial profiling. It is preventive and targets DRUNK people.
FUCK IT I AM CHALDEAN(FROM IRAG) AND I GET PULLED OVER BECAUSE I LOOK LIKE A MIDDLE EASTERN SO BE IT WHO GIVES A FUCK YOU PEOPLE ARE FUCKING STUPIED FUCK THE ACLU SHIT
"The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally in 2003. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California's prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces."
Yes DRUNK people break the law and they need to be held accountable.
I would think that the Hispanic community groups would be upset with profiling since they are being targeted. However that is because of the people here illegally and that is also against the law and they need to be held accountable.
Sometimes bad things happen to good people, we handle them, we move on. We do not try to find out who is to blame.
On average 13 americans are killed by illegals. That does'nt include drunk driving. I live in California. I've seen it go to hell because of illegal immigration. There is so much crime. The are really taking California back. People are moving out. Neighborhoods segregate themselves. Schools segregate themselves. Gated communities. If amnesty passes the United States is done. One day part of the United States will succeed from itself. Nations are known for their culture. If one day Africa's population becomes all Chinese does it mean the chinese are african, or Africa is now China? History will repeat itself.
I meant on average 13 americans are killed by illegals everyday.
Racial profiling is a horrible injustice, yet it exists and we see it every day. For heavens sake my son can't even get his race documented on any police report or in the KY prison where he now sits. They have the proof of his race in their hands yet won't put it on record. So not only is he stopped for looking suspicious at every turn and overcharged with all the things they think he must have done, but he gets the ultimate offence of being listed as a white man on all police and court documents. The prison has all the proof in his file of his race, so they have conveniently not put his profile info into their prison system. Would you let them call a black man white? 20,000+ prisoners have profile available, but not him. Native American he is. Dark, brown skin, black eyes, all the features, and a white man say the police in every single instance of a stop or charge. Add to that the inability to get medical care in prison for stage 4 cancer. Yes, that's right, 21, diagnosed at 16 with the number one cancer killer of men 18-39, and he can't even get the scans ordered by his oncologist to monitor him for relapse though the doctors orders have been put in the hands of the KY prison system and added to his file twice.
I read the posts here on the ACLU site and realize the organization is overwhelmed with cases. Though white, having a brown son has certainly opened my eyes to the problems. I just wonder what it takes to get the attention of the ACLU. Not stage 4 cancer in a boy that can't even have his race accurately recorded nor get the scans he needs to monitor him for the relapse of a life threatening illness. Not the double tasering of him on my front lawn a couple of days after his first chemo treatment when he was but 17. Not putting him in s life threatening situation by dragging him from the hospital to the jail at 17 after almost killing him with that taser. And not calling him white though all of those officials have the proof in their hands of his race. Geez, what does it take to have justice?
859-801-7041 if anyone who gives a crap and can do something about it wants the details. I won't hold my breath though. I think it must be too big a case for the ACLU to tackle. I only touched a couple of highlights, and all of us who know about racial profiling and police targeting can tell you there is of course much much more that occurred.
“The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally in 2003. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California’s prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces.”
Let me put out there that the demographics of the jails are skewed not because illegals commit more crimes but because they are targeted for racial profiling. Police are more likely to charge things that did not happen or distort minor offences into felonies if they know one has no money. I have witnessed that happen. Then the system is overburdened and does not provide adequate defence. Often the public defenders have only a few minutes on a case before 'representing' the defendent in court. Also many are only serving as public defenders straight out of college punching the ticket before they move on to the prosecutor's office where they really want to be. The prisons are not stastistically significantly skewed toward minorities because minorities commit more crimes. There is bias throughout the system that is causing it. Basic science.
Rep. King put it, we have a "choice between political correctness and keeping America safe."
There is no safety when the Bill of Rights of our constitution are broken and then justified by police and courts. Without accountability to the law of those who enforce and interpret the law, none are safe. There is no greater threat citizen safety than putting guns and authority in the hands of men and then not holding them accountable to the laws. One can reason oneself into almost any position, but stand back and realize we then say one must break the law to keep the law. We justify that our police must be criminals to keep us safe. We must strike down the Bill of Rights to keep ourselves safe. Either police and courts need to stick to the law, and by that I mean federal law, or they don't. If allowed to bypass, they also become criminals, fuzz the lines of accountability and law, and open the system up to every kind of abuse by those we have armed with guns and authority. In this sort of system, it will not be simply the minorities who pay the price. It will be each and every American at some point unless they have vast funds to buy their defence.
The Commonwealth of Kentucky has according to them no Native Americans within their prison system. Zero. Nada. The public KOOL (Kentucky On-line Offender Look-up) will show any who wish to google it. Yet in their prisons sits at least one Native American. It is such a simple matter to check the "Native American" box instead of the "white" box, yet I must assume that there is an untold story here because there was plenty of opportunity to document his race and it did not occur. There are absolutely zero records available to the public that would flag him as a Native American. Again with the law of statistics, it cannot be accidental. I want to know the source of the resistance. Why? They have the copy of his tribal membership on file, so why must it be a secret that there is a Native American within their prison system? I guarantee you there is a reason it is being hidden, and I want to know what it is. There are in excess of 20,000 prisoners in the KY prison system and their profile including race is available in KOOL. Less than 40 have no racial information available. The police refused to enter him as anything but white. The prison then omitted his profile and race from their public look-up which less than 0.005% of the prison population have happen. It is statistically highly impropable that this was an accident.
The Native American sitting in the KY prisons is a poster boy for the ACLU. There is enough documentation in the records and files to take his case all the way to the Supreme Court and win changing the face of America in the process. His case touches on many facets that the ACLU works very hard to protect. Racial profiling, medical care for prisoners, tasers, the Right to an Attorney during questioning, the Right to free practice of religion in prisons, and more. He is very tall, incredibly good looking, articulate, educated, and well versed in politics. He is thus far a survivor of childhood cancer. Wrapped into one young man and tied with a big red Christmas bow sits your gift waiting for you. Do you wish to make a difference? Defending those who wish to post signs in their yard will be nothing in comparison to the sensationalism of his story.
We have a constitution, and since then amendments and even further more defined legislation. It is simply a matter of enforcement, and not in methods that allow wealthy celebrities and sports figures exemption. Also , throw out the race cards; If you are black, white, or any other race, and you do the crime, you need to be incarcerated. Simple stuff. Do the crime, do the time.
If you are black or any other race, you do the time. If you are white, you likely won't even be charged -- especially if you happen to be with a black one or brown one in the stop. I'm quite familiar with statistics and science, and have witnessed the bias of race. You do the crime, you do the time does not apply. Call it the race card, but it is simple science and even a novice at stats could demonstrate the issue. Also, it is at least 90% certain if you are non-white that the charges will be upped to something not supported by evidence. You do a crime, and will be charged with offences 2-3 times your offence. It is done on purpose. It is not accidental that a state like KY has 20% black population in the prisons yet has one of the whitest demographics ever as a state.
Correction, 28.73% black in KY prisons today in a state where there are less than 5% blacks in the demographic. I saw the bias in felony court with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears. Anyone who thinks this is just race card is a blind man.
it's something that shouldn't be talked about cause I don't see more cops hitting the streets anytime soon and I can forsee a rise in crime. So say we don't racially profile. A cop could look dead at the suspects and won't pull them over cause they are the same race as the suspects? It makes no sense and racial profiling works. It's also a good way to get blacks from dressing like thug blacks. In that sense it's like life. You dress like trash and people will stereotype. You distance your look and demeaner and everyone wins, and the kid learns a lesson that being cool isn't always gonna lead you to good places. The reason why I used blacks as an example is because I notice a lot of good people that are black dress the same as thug blacks. Personally, I'd say it's very hard to tell them apart from thugs and the point is to dissuade young blacks from dressing trashy.
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