Because freedom can't protect itself
We applaud your efforts for increased accountablity -- all forms of abuse and torture must cease.
Good, law-abiding Americans -- including Americans without any Muslim ties -- have been targeted and are being harassed on American soil. It continues, in spite of the attempts of many to reveal these continuing abuses. If other good Americans were made aware of what's taking place, these activities would cease. Not only are they inconsistent with the rule of law and the Constitution, but because these kinds of practices are fundamentally un-American.
We need a whistleblower, but the CIA, NSA, FBI, and possibly other tax-payer supported agencies are not even included in current legislation which would give whistleblowers the protection which they deserve, under the law.
There might be hope. Perhaps after all we can investigate and prosecute those that enabled, ordered and carried out torture.
We own a debt of thanks to the Spanish Prosecutor. He has embarrassed us into doing the right thing.
It seems in todays world of great danger and great national stress it is a good thing to have international oversight.
Torture is a crime against humanity and those responsible should do serious jail time like any other dangerous criminal.
The wing nuts will try to justify these
crimes by talking about how bad the terrorists are but that does not excuse
torture by the C.I.A any more than a rapist should be excused just because some one else raped and murdered.
(Why was this post taken down earlier today?)
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN:
WHEN WILL ACLU COME TO THE AID OF VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC TORTURE...
...AN EXTRAJUDICIAL TARGETING AND PUNISHMENT 'MATRIX' THAT MAKES A MOCKERY OF THE RULE OF LAW?
A federal "multi-agency coordinated action" program appears to provide funding, organizational structure and, the evidence indicates, direction, for what amounts to an "American Gestapo"...
... an extrajudicial targeting and punishment "matrix" that has drafted hundreds of thousands of citizen volunteer vigilantes to stalk, harass, terrorize and yes, TORTURE, many many thousands of unjustly "targeted" American citizens and their families...
...using covertly implanted GPS tracking devices and classified microwave radiation "directed energy weapons" -- which have been proliferated to local law enforcement nationwide by government agencies that include the Department of Justice.
This "multi-agency coordinated action" appears to be overseen by secretive security forces close to the seat of executive power (but apparently under the radar of POTUS and his closest aides).
My task here is to issue a WAKE-UP CALL to POTUS, VPOTUS, AG Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano, David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel -- and to civil liberties advocates such as the members and staff of ACLU.
If their aides are reading this, please forward the following link to their immediate attention:
OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):
2012 will be here before you know it.
Do not make heroes of men whom suffered similar crimes of war, should you not want to make heroes of any prisoners of war in this modern era... I do not believe it is America's ambition to entertain what is so passionately has vilified... The only answer is to allow accountability, then to stop, reset, and start anew honoring our moral superiority.
What does it take for you people to wake up and acknowledge the very apparent agenda of torture and abuse.As the very first person to file charges against torture and abuse in the intelligence community,I had a complete exposure to its intention and expected results.I was a counterintelligence agent under the infamous Colonel Thomas Papas.
There is no moral ambiguity now,nor was there then in Iraq.All this hand-wringing about what torture is and its supposed benefit was never in question in those fear/pain filled rooms.As I was casually asked repeatedly to deal with the medical issues arising from another interrogation gone "wrong".
The command of the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade under Colonel Papas did'nt hesitate one second to implement any measures to keep control of the torture and abuse doctrine..when it became apparent that the torture policy"nice euphamism" was causing an instant and un-controllable fury with the population the command made sure that all intelligence reports were either not passed forward to higher commands or a "COMSEC Whitewash" was placed in communication or in my case when I insisted that the torture and abuse policy be terminated immdiately,the command simply said your " your suffering from battle fatigue" and you imagined all this torture,and people dying in Samarra,and ABU GHRAIB prison..an otherwise "quiet" neutral zone till we started our "snatch and grab" and photographed for the world to see "new" interrogation policies.
contact me if you want to know more of the entire procedure for this intentional "Strategic Provocation" designed to provide a fertile business envirmonment for the largest logistical supply corporation in America and its President Dick Cheney aka the Vice President of Torture.
A lawyer is a lawyer. They all know the right words even the ACLU lawyers.
If, as Professor Sands suggests, the issue is "not how to characterize the acts, but what to do about them" enforcement, not prescription, is the issue. Is this not precisely the dilemma which faced John marshall in deciding Marbury v Madison? That is, a clear violation of law had been demonstrated yet Marshall was powerless to do anything about it. How then was he able to use the dilemma decsribed by Sands to fashion a judgment upon which the power of the United States Supreme Court now rests? He handed down a judgment on the law which forbade enforcement of the judgment. As international lawyers seek to bring certain American lawyers to justice for the acts described by sands in Torture Team, they might borrow the approach taken by marshall in the Marbury case. Assert jurisdiction, expound carefully upon why the American lawyers violated international law, but conclude, as did marshall for practical reasons, that the assertion of jurisdiction was itself unlawful. In this way, a clear exposition of the law as applied to the acts could be rendered without undertaking the impossible: enforcing a judgment as unlikely of enforcement as would have been Marshall's judgment against Jefferson's Secretary of State, James Madison. If an international forum itself divines a defect in its jurisdiction but only after explaining how and why America went astray, Americans likely would be more inclined to heed such a judgment. It worked for John Marshall. So well did the approach work that today the United States Supreme Court stands among the most powerful judicial bodies in the world, albeit built upon a foundation of no jurisdiction at its most difficult time.
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