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Is it against the law to wear sagging pants or does the airline have a policy prohibiting the wearing of sagging pants? Was it posted anywhere? Was he made aware of it when he purchased his ticket? No one has boarded this plane before with sagging pants? I am 62 years old and I know this is ridiculous. This young man rights have been violated. What about the other things people wear that we might not care for, like covering the face with veils? Will they be allowed on the plane?
The airline has a dress policy, he violated it, he was asked to correct it, he refused, he was asked to leave the plane, he refused, he was told he was trespassing, he refused to leave, security ordered him off the plane, he refused.
What I dont understand is why he meaning Deshon, when asked couldnt simply pull them up till he reached his destination and then go back to wearing them however he wants, but NO he starts a riot with words and actions making it 100% worse. Grow up, it doesnt hurt u to pull the shorts up for a short while and follow the rules which are meant to protect us all.
I personally do not like to see other individuals underwear!
ITS NOT ABOUT BEING A THREAT OR PREJUDICE. ITS PLAIN TACKY. PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE MODELS ON BILL BOARDS SAYING THAT THEY ARE IMPROPERLY DRESSED SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO WHY SHOULD ANY PERSONS MALE OR FEMALE BE ALLOWED TO WEAR THEIR PANTS PAST THEIR BUTTOCKS? I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE A BAND AGAINST THIS AND FINES TO BE PAID. BLACK, WHITE, YELLOW, BROWN, NO MATTER THE COLOR OF PEOPLES SKIN I HAVE SEEN THIS IN ALL RACES AND GENDERS. GET OFF TELLING PEOPLE THAT ITS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE WEARING PANTS/SHORTS IN THIS STYLE. CAN SOMEONE ANSWER ME THIS.... WHY IS IT WHEN A WOMAN WEARS PROVOCATIVE CLOTHING OR DRESS/SKIRT TO SHORT SHE IS A HOOKER. GET OFF IT PLEASE.
TURNING TO THE POLICE BECAUSE OF SAGGY PANTS WAS NOT THE REASON...... HELLO! IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS ASKED TO PULL THEM UP BECAUSE OF THE AIRLINES DRESS CODE.
While I doubt if this is a security issue. I am TIRED of seeing kids with their A*S*S* hanging out. If the front falls down isn't that indecent exposure and a crime?
Will there be a follow-up to this? I'm interested in the outcome.
As someone who works in the retail industry, saagy pants always means we watch them just a little bit closer because they slip merchandise into their pants and then slip out the door. Black AND white, it makes no difference.
My own personal view is that these idiotic young men will have hip issues when they are older from adating an unnatural walking stance so that their pants don't fall down completely. Seriously...if they have to hold their pants up when they walk, WHAT IS THE POINT!?
It is not just Afro-Americans who wear saggy pants, other kids do it too, even girls! I find it disrespectful & is offensive! I do not want to see some-
one's underpants, male or female. This might be the now fad, but it is a stupid one. I'm glad you ARE wearing underpants, but I don't care to see them! This is just like when someone pulls up beside you at a red light & has their music blasting, even rattling windows. I don't want to listen to your music any more than you want to listen to mine. People just don't seem to have self-respect any more & if they don't have it, why do they expect anyone else to respect them! I know each generation has their fads, but now they are getting down right stupid!
Saggy pants need to be outlawed. They are the most ridiculous attire ever!! I have never understood why anyone would want to have their pants so low that they can't even walk. The last thing I want to see is someones nasty underwear in my face!! I hope it is outlawed.
I am a huge fan of the ACLU and the battle against racial prejudice in our society. I even would have taken different action if I were on the flight staff and I might have even spoken up as a fellow passenger (despite the risk of involvement).
However I think this summary of the situation is missing something. From what I have read the airline staff asked Deshon to pull up his pants and he refused. The airline is in fact permitted to enforce any dress code they desire (as long as it is consistent etc.). Authorities were only involved when he refused to cooperate with the request. Refusing to cooperate with a flight crew is in fact criminal. So the authorities when asked to remove him from the flight don't have all that much choice.
Framing this as someone being arrested for wearing a particular style misses the part where he committed a crime, albeit a minor one.
It also missed the point that one issue here may be the degree to which authorities feel free to exercise discretion and perhaps remove him from the plane (they have no choice if the airline insists) but not arrest him unless he refuses to cooperate with them. Or even simply see if they can mitigate the dispute (ex. explain to him that he really does have to do what the staff says or leave and get the flight crew to let him stay if he does).
Basically I agree that this is a case where racism and classicist mentalities may well be a factor (who knows how a white male with similar attire would be treated). However, I think we are all poorly serviced by leaving out key legal points as we may miss the appropriate way to address the problem and/or what that problem actually IS.
Thanks for all your hard work.
If emergency exit is required from a plane, I wouldn't want droopy drawers to trip a person in front of me.
It it were me I would just pull up my pants...No need to try to make a point over something so small.
Name and shame the airline immediately! Absolutely disgusting behaviour by both the airline and the SFPD! Shame on all of them!
Then you, Mr./Mrs. Anon, will never be the voice of much needed change in this world.
Racism was legal once, and I bet there were people who chose to abide by those unjust laws. "I'll just drink from the 'Black only' water fountain. No need to make a point over something so small."
If someone told you to change the way you look to appease them, what would you say to them and most importantly, what would you do?
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