Because freedom can't protect itself
imply that the privacy rights of poor people and communities are worth less than those of the gainfully employed—
every employed person I know was required to take and pass a pre employment drug and alcohol test. They are also subject to random, probable cause, and post accident testing....so why wouldnt those receiving public assistance or unemployment be subject to the same rules as those of us who are employeed?
You make it out to be an issue of privacy... sir, that's misleading. There are plenty of people who are required to take tests regularly throughout their employment. Govt aid is meant to be used to help a person get back on their feet. If that person is spending all of their money on alcohol, cigarettes, and drugs; wouldn't you say that person is abusing the system?
If state and/or federal governments are going to drug test welfare recipients, then why not test ALL government aid recipients, including Medicaid/Title 19, Food Stamps, child care assistance, student loans for college, etc.? Then not one group would be excluded. Yeah it is a stab at the lower income people like myself, but if you want help from the government to take care of your family, you have to do what you have to do.
This is not welfare, the children pay it back. The Government intercepts the child support. These are the questions that need to be answered. What are the rules on suspicion, is it what Joe the plumber thinks is suspicious or what Mary Lou the DHHS clerk thinks is suspicious? When the custodial parent fails the drug test, why is the DHHS appointing A PERSON to act as protective payee and not the other parent? What happened to COURTS appointing conservators? Now the DHHS does this without notifying the other Parent or Court Ordered Joint managing- conservator-Obligor Parent who is on the hook to pay back the TANF? Why are the children being forced to support the Non-working-dope fend- custodial parent and the DHHS appointed Non- Working-SO- CALLED Protective Payee- Adult Squatter living in the child's home. Why not just place the child in the home of the Non- dope fend-working parent then the child will not need nor be eligible for TANF.
PS; Why do I have to prove I am a human visitor. Why can't I just program my robot to be my Spokesman? I got a lot of things to do. I am Protective Payee for some dudes child and I need to go shopping and buy guns, ammo, alcohol, condoms and lube at Walmart with The child's TANF cash.
I am employed in the aviation industry and am required to take pre-employment, post accident, and random drug and alcohol testing. Why is it fair for someone who receives my tax money to not be subject to the same requirements?
How about this, if I have to be subject to these test, and the people receiving my taxes do not, then lower my tax rate, or let me be exempt from paying.
I have had plenty of jobs where drug testing is not required..In fact, I have never been drug tested to get a job. The fact that people on welfare can go to the doctor, someone they are supposed to trust, and get secretly drug tested, is ridiculous.
IF you take money from the government you relinquish your rights to use drugs period. You have to get a drug test to get a job and work, why would you NOT be mandated to take a drug test so others can pay for you NOT to work !!!!
Agreed with most of the Anonymous posts here. Who the hell are welfare recipients that they get a pass when it comes to pssng in a cup? If WORKING people have to do it to gain employment, welfare recipients should be NO exception!
If i have to pee in a cup to get a job and make my money then people on welfare should have to pee in a cup to get their money too!!!! I see nothing wrong with it! The only reason more people havent been caught is because those on welfare are given notice to be tested. I say show up at their door on a monday morning and hand them a cup!!!! Surprise!!!!! Now you know how the working class feels!!!!!
You guys miss the point that having a private employer require you to take a drug test is not the same as having THE GOVERNMENT require you to take a drug test.
Really, you think this is a violation of a deadbeats civil rights? I work a minimum of 40hrs a week and have done since the time I graduated from school / college. Not only did I have to pass a drug and alcohol screen before I was employed but I am also open to random drug and alcohol tests to keep my job.
If I have to be tested and pass these tests to stay gainfully employed then you're Damn right that these low lifes and lazy bums that choose not to work should have to be scrutinized just as much as I do before they receive any money or food stamps from a system that my law abiding ass has to pay into!
Really?? You think that this is a violation of a deadbeats civil rights? You people need to get a clue!
I work at least 40hrs a week and have done since I left school/college. I had to submit to a drug and alcohol test Prior to my employment and I'm subject to random drug and alcohol tests. If I have to comply with complete sobriety to stay gainfully employed then Yes you're Damn right these deadbeats/losers and welfare mum's that choose not to work should have to undergo the same scrutiny as I do.
I've paid into the system my entire life and if someone expects to get money, medical assistance and/or food stamps on my dime then you bet they should be tested . If they don't like it then get off your lazy a$$ and get a job otherwise stop complaining or don't apply for welfare, it's as simple as that people!
Articles such as this is exactly the type of mentality that has our nation so corrupt! We should not be forced to support deadbeat crackhead losers that milk the system and sit back watching TV all day smoking and laughing as the hard working Americans pay for their way of life. Whether or not your tested by a private company or the government is not an argument at all and is certainly not an infringement of civil rights that's BS! You want civil rights? Work for them, if you make the choice to ask for help knowing you are going to get drug tested then it's your choice if you think it's a invasion of rights then don't! Go get a job and let a private company test you since that's "not" taking away civil rights! I'm tired of paying for losers, they milk the system I know first hand because I come from a family of drug addict losers who have spent their entire lives on welfare & their pros at working the system. Of course if they have notice they will find a way to pass the test , that's the fun of it right? It's a game to them, and each time we lose....
Not all people that get on welfare are lazy. I was working got hurt on the job and claimed workers comp then got on welfare till this day and my husband is self employed and pays taxes. WE ARE BOTH ON WELFARE HE IS SELF EMPLOYED AND SMOKES MARIJUANA.IM TRYING TO RECOVER FROM MY INJURY TO CONTINUE TO BE THE OCCUPATIONAL THERAPIST THAT I WAS YEARS AGO.THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TAX $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ICLUDING MY HUSBANDS TAX $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. DONT FUCK IT UP FOR PEOPLE LIKE HIM WHO ENJOY SMOKING M.J.
Are college students earning a degree and receiving federal grants for tuition, getting food stamps, and working a part time job lazy?
"imply that the privacy rights of poor people and communities are worth less than those of the gainfully employed."
No, my step dad, who is a nuclear engineer, has to be drug tested in order to maintain and keep his job.
Right. When it's mostly the RICH who have and use drugs, because they're the only ones who can afford them.
I hope they take cocaine so long that it causes a double aneurysm, sends them into cardiac tamponade and kills them within 5 minutes of collapse.
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