Heads: Detention, Tails: Detention

It is difficult to divine the purpose of today's closed-door session and tomorrow's on-the-record hearing of the military commissions at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. Although President Obama called for the suspension of the Bush-era commissions shortly after taking office four months ago, and despite his recent announcement of his plan to "fix" the commissions, the mystery that is Guantánamo marches on, seemingly oblivious to state-side developments.

The ostensible goal of the hearings is to resolve two preliminary issues in the military-commission trial of Omar Khadr: his selection of counsel - an issue that has plagued virtually every military-commission proceeding - and the prosecution's request for a stay of the proceedings.

But resolution of those two issues seems a meaningless endeavor in light of President Obama's decision to scrap the current military commissions and even more so given the replacement for them that President Obama outlined in his speech at the National Archives.

In that speech, the president focused on one overriding theme: he will under no circumstances release someone who he considers to be "dangerous," whether or not he can prove it. Around that organizing principle, the president constructed a simple system of detention. If there is good evidence of a detainee's guilt, he will try that detainee in federal court. If there is perhaps some evidence, but it is tainted by coercion or for some other reason would not convince a federal court of the detainee's guilt, he will try the detainee before a military commission, where the rules are rigged in favor of the prosecution. And if there is no viable evidence of guilt, but the president really thinks the detainee is dangerous, the president will simply detain him - indefinitely and preventively.

This plan, if carried out, would give President Obama the dubious distinction of being the first president in our nation's history to seek congressional codification of an expansive system of preventive detention. Perhaps even more telling, however, the plan amounts to a plea for Congress to enshrine into law, perhaps with some as-of-yet-undefined oversight, the power that President Bush asserted without any statutory support.

It is in the shadow of this heads-I-win-tails-I-win system of guaranteed detention that this weekend's military-commission hearings take place. What purpose they serve is a mystery to most here. But on they will go.

(More to come after tomorrow's on-the-record hearing.)

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Bill (the Non-C...

If we can't convict an alleged "terrorist" because of faulty evidence or because we used torture to get them to talk, then we should do the same thing with them that any American prosecutor is obliged to do when they screw up and don't follow procedure: cut the accused loose. They're too dangerous to release, many say -- well that's too bad -- we must eat our mistakes, as we do all (well, most of) the time in botched prosecutions if we're supposed to be a nation of laws. Many fear that it will put American lives at risk if we follow the rule of law, but we died for that "rule of law" and other freedoms beginning in 1776. We'd still be speaking the Queen's English if we were the p, (whoops!), I mean, "wussies" that Right-Wingers and a growing number of Democrats are calling us. History shows we're not a nation of cowards who would trade our freedoms (e.g.: having our phones tapped) if it saved a few of our lives. No, not me -- I'm not a sissie -- and I resent politicians characterizing me as such. Freedom costs; sometimes it costs lives (but it's worth the price).

Peter Rubenstein

I just wrote an email to President Obama by clicking on the "Contact us" link on whitehouse.gov

Dear President Obama,

I am an early and continuing supporter of your campaign and your administration, but I have some deep concerns about your recent statements regarding the treatment of prisoners and rule of law.

Please do not bow to some people's fears and base instincts by allowing a system of "justice" that has pre-ordained outcomes. Even if you or someone in your administration thinks a given individual is a danger--if it cannot be proven in a fair court of law--he must be released! Not for the sake of that individual but for the rest of us--for our society's ideals, our principal of the rule of law.

No matter how badly we'd like to circumvent the inconvenient rules of evidence and even-handed justice when we "just know" someone is guilty, we must hold back! We must not allow our fears to override the best gift we can give to humanity: fidelity to the ideals enshrined in our Constitution and our laws.

If we allow our laws and ideals to be overridden by these events, we will pay a price for it: in future abuses and in the loss of standing to promote these ideals on the world stage. All of humanity will lose out because we could not hold true.

Please reconsider your decisions regarding the continuance of Military Commissions and, especially, the system of indefinite detention you have proposed. I beg you to stand up against demagoguery and fear and be the force for reasoned intelligence that we know you can be.

Thank you for your attention,


How the electronic wizards of today are using their high technology to eliminate the undesirables and play god

Let’s look at the facts since the beginning of time man has used magic to play god. During the roman times the priest would use tricks to make the temple doors open automatically. During Lewis and Clark days they would throw gun powder on the fire or strike a match. Today is no different. We have all seen magicians of today make the statue of liberty disappear, or he stands outside a locked armored car and raises a black curtain and then lowers it and he is inside, these magic tricks are all fun and games, until you get someone who can mix in a few medical miracles and some electronic high technology then they can control the crave. They can criminalize the undesirables for barring arms against their harms, and deny a whole population the right of laws. They hide in the back ground running the people broke as they profit endlessly. The logic of the drug war will not be debated here. From attacking the sick and stealing cars from the handicap as they claim to be helping out all these blacks and they fill our prisons and gut our cities with their crime and violence. This article will address the different types of medical and high technology weapons they are using to destroy the peaceful peoples lives and freedom for their wallets.
Sound technology: They can cancel the noise of an engine because sound travels in waves: make a wave equal to the one being produced and it becomes silent. Directed sound; They can direct the sound waves so that only one person can hear it, no need for ear pieces. sound technology is classified information “Columbia journalist Review” you are just to believe that the Arab who was tortured in quantamino really did hear god telling him to confess his sins, you are just to believe that it was god who told the pot dealer to condemn the first page of the Christian bible and join the 700 club, if you don’t you must be crazy right?
Medical miracles: They have needless injectors powered by air, air riffles they now display can rip a steel can to shreds, but you don’t hear about their needless injectors. They can change they yoke of an egg from orange to yellow with out damaging the shell. Deplete a mans sugar and you can make a sugar addict, make him allergic to peanuts then you can chase him around the world with your peanut oil. From their designer drugs they make for their athletics to their breathalyzer pills they make for the Europeans do you really believes they only lie about their fen fen and viox, when they put parraquat on weed knowing that it does nothing but give the pot smoker cancer.
Sensory depravation, aroma therapy They have the ability to make a horrid smell , like an aerosol can one little spray and in a few seconds you will smell it and beg for death, but unable to identify the source.
Microwaves: thermal imaging photos, they can see inside a cow to determine the best time to milk it. They can find black oil thousands of feet below the ground. They have waves that they can aim at someone and either repulse or attract that person.
Lasers: They can fill a room with lasers that can cut a person in half but you wouldn’t be able to see them. They can make an image appear on the wall and the unsuspecting could think it god.
Satellite: we all have seen what Google maps can do but that only what they allow the average person to see they have the ability to zoom in on the face or license plate of their target.
Stealth technology With their flying drones that can carry as many bombs as a full jet and you can’t see them. With their camouflage technology they can park a tank across the street and you wouldn’t see it. The samurai warrior was a master at stealth movements, able to walk across rice paper without damaging it. They can make glass as hard as nails, and you can build with them, their holograms, micro video cameras and LCD clothing do you really believe that Harry Potters vanishing blanket is impossible?
Detectors: They have the ability to use the technology to detect potassium, pot is high in potassium, they can walk around a building and detect if there is a loaded gun inside.
Electronics: Radio interference, sound bugs, auto car stops and starts, phone taps, wrong numbers sent to, whole house wiring becoming a sound amplifier, computer malfunctions. Do you really believe that you can be safe behind your brick wall? Samurai warrior, magician and doctors devote their life’s to their art but when some of these Nazi combine these arts and then think they can play god and sell out our freedom to the talibomb for billions as they try to convert the peaceful pot smoke to their gay or Muslim agenda, what will you do when they come after you with the crave? They build their weapons in their BLACK OPPS PROGRAM with the expressed purpose of plausible deniability. The cities and towns and the local red neck sheriff can make millions as they eliminate the undesirables, but they never expose themselves unless they know you will never get out of their gay prisons, but they work in the back ground causing all the crime and violence. Science fiction or science fact?
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• Just the facts
we will not be silenced
Fact: They control the crave; from their nicotine patch to their Parkinson drug Fact: the burning of the natural plant is required in many religions. Fact: they have used healthcare to eliminate or control a population.(American experience PbS)
Fact: in the 1970s only 2% of the population had anything to do with illegal drugs 2009 over 50% of the population admits to having something to do with drugs i. e. weed (CBS)
Fact: They make designer drugs for their athletics and breathalyzer pills for the Europeans. (BBC- RAIDO)
Fact: America has the highest jail population in the world and yet 90% of the jail population is drug related
Fact: America has the highest addiction rate in the world
Fact: They openly admit that “these people are as good if not better than most corporate executives” PBS radio
Fact: T. Edison, T. Jefferson, Georg Washington and Henry Ford all had something to do with illegal drugs (st. louis post dispatch)
Fact: They make excuses for attacking people with cancer and scoliosis as they ignore the will of the people in California. (libertarian news)
Fact: America has less than 30 people legally allowed to smoke weed, while Canada has over 1200 (Raido- march to arch speaker)
Fact: They use lies and propaganda fear and intimidation to keep weed criminal
Fact: They can not keep heavy drugs crime violence and cell phones out of their prisons and yet we are expected to give up our freedom.
Fact: They claim to be exempt from the Ten Commandments lying, cheating and stealing because some pharmaceutical companies have paid for this war.
Fact: They will sabotage, drug, condition, and train people in their attempt to make a Delorian or Marian berry out of someone. (Edgewood, mkultra)
Fact: They sabotage the American free enterprise system and small business as they gut our cities with their crime and violence( Roliing stones gaslight square)
Fact: Time magazine points out the true science of weed is being subverted.
Fact: They have a repeated pattern of lying in court subverting the constitution and the laws in order to eliminate these people. (chambers,duke university, hern tx.)
Fact: they are allowed to disrupt the criminal element; with that the pot smoker is then forever a criminal and they will do what ever it takes to make him a criminal.
Fact: The only thing different from the right wing and the talibomb is one is a cult.
Fact: It was Dow chemical who took two kids in N.J. smoking a joint and turned it into a multi billion dollar war against our freedom. (PBS)
Fact: It was a retired Dow scientist that made the meth recipe. (Wired magazine)
Fact: They deny a whole population the right of laws as they criminalize them for their genetic, neurological, hereditary, ancestral, natural and religious rights.
Fact: They always try to make an accusation, about something other than weed, unless they can get him to buy or sell large quantities. (60 min. gold and black gang)
Fact: they have high technology weapons that they can inject the people with the crave or their Aids virus. (60 min south Africa)
Fact: more than one black preacher will tell you there are high officials behind their raciest war. (evening news)
Fact: They take out 6 million dollars in the poor and black neighbors and can account for only 3 million dollars after spending $5000.00 on badges. (St Louis Post)
Fact: More people are on the streets pushing their heavy drugs while the honest pot dealer is beaten in the ally with their Billy clubs.
Fact: With a touch of a button they can add THC to weed or take it away, making it worthless. (Amsterdam grower)
Fact: The newspapers make you believe that the kid was just too lazy to grow his own plant so he had to start selling their drugs (RFT)
Fact: They can’t even tell a geese’s brain, flying north and south, but we as free Americans are to give up our freedom so they monitor us. (npr)
Fact: They tortured, held until he pissed blood the governor of California libertarian candidate who worked to legalize weed, then gave him a chemical substitute for weed and claimed it had nothing to do with weed. (libertarian news)
Fact: Their object is to run the people broke and call them crazy or have him rip off 18 quick shops in a three moth time period with the pretext of helping them out.
Fact: With a 90% return rate with their prisons most either forced into their gay agenda or convert to Muslim. (PRI)
Fact: The people who are subjected to their war, or forced to work for them if they want a reduced sentence and are forced to destroy other decent people who are different.
Fact: They boast on their front page of the newspapers about their chemicals and garbage they produce in their labs to rip off the uneducated.(Miami newspaper)
Fact: They put paraquat in weed knowing that it did nothing but give the people cancer.
Fact: They can give a person an undetectable pain, I. e. john Nash, and the play the Bugs. And criminalize him for barring arms against their harms.
Fact: Their MK ULTRA program was started in the 1960s and only one Canadian has ever been able to prove he was victim.
Fact: The Arabs just like buying up LA because they like being next to the immoral American movie stars.
Fact: The Talibomb was created by the Americans to battle the Russians in Afghanistan.
Fact: Pakistan has the nuclear bomb and close friends with some Americans
Fact: The first one on the no fly list was the green party candidate. (Financial times Europe)
Fact: At 911 the only plane was allowed to fly was the Saudi prince who just happened to be visiting. (Fahrenheit 911)
Fact: high officials have been known to sell info to the Russians but we hear nothing of all the billions the Arabs have.
Fact: with 999 TV stations out their, if they come after you with the crave you will have no way to get your message out.
Fact: we will not be silenced your national program is going to come to an end.
Fact: science fiction or science fact
now you know some of the facts read about your poetic and religious rights they are after in the book ABOUT CHRISTIANS AND FREEDOM@Amazon.com


So. The president/government can classify someone as dangerous and lock them up indefinitely? On their own arbitrary decision?

We are to acquiesce in this?

Presidents and administrations’ statements are true? Need no independent corroboration? Like the decisions/rationales for assaulting Iraq?

Of course this is blatantly in conflict with the Constitution.

My question is: how can we have a sensible discussion of such a lunatic proposition?


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