Happy Fourth of July from the ACLU!

On this day 232 years ago, our founders brought forth a new nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all people are created equal. With their minds set on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, they proceeded to lay the foundation of a great nation to be governed by the will of the people, bestowed with a balance of power among the branches of government, and free of tyranny.

The fight to preserve our essential liberties is as important today as it was then. Over the last seven years, those in power in this country have brought forth a steady stream of threats to the fundamental rights enshrined in our Constitution. From freedom of speech and the right to habeas corpus, to the right to vote and be treated equally under the law, so many of our personal liberties have come under attack.

This weekend, as we enjoy our barbecues, our baseball games, and our fireworks, we should also take a moment to remember that there can be no greater tribute to a nation born of the desire to protect individual freedom and liberty than to stand up for those very founding principles when they are attacked.

Patriotism doesn't mean blindly following the will of a few. It means being part of an informed and involved citizenry. It means exercising dissent by speaking out when you don't believe in what is happening. It means being constantly vigilant in the protection of civil liberties, and holding government officials accountable when they take aim at our freedoms. And above all, patriotism means loving this country so much that we will fight to protect the things that make it great for generations to come.

This Independence Day, join us in celebrating our great nation by remembering the things upon which it was founded: Liberty and Justice for all.

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Lonnie Wilson

The fight to preserve our essential liberties is as important today as it was then. Over the last seven years, those in power in this country have brought forth a steady stream of threats to the fundamental rights enshrined in our Constitution. From freedom of speech and the right to habeas corpus, to the right to vote and be treated equally under the law, so many of our personal liberties have come under attack.

Except that there's one personal liberty that the ACLU is completely AWOL on: The Second Amendment's individual right to keep and bear arms. This entire "Happy 4th of July" is a slap in the face of the 75% of the US population when you conveniently leave out the Second Amendment as an individual right, and still stand steadfast to the "collective rights" theory which has been exposed as an absolute and total fraud.

All of our liberties are sacrosanct, whether it be the first amendment, second amendment, or fourth. The liberals such as myself who view the ACLU as betraying the most basic principles of our constitution are NOT going away. 282 comments, only 2 defending ACLU's collective rights stance, and I count several dozen membership cancellations and others wanting to rip up their membership cards and send them back to you. We as believers in the ACLU's charter are NOT going away.


"Liberty and Justice for all" is what you're trying to say the ACLU stands for. I know it's a blog but I still don't think you should lie. Then again, Anthony, you are just a brain-washed ACLU pawn who seems incapable of any logical thinking and follows the ACLU regardless of their communist fascist, and extreme leftist ideas. How sad. Next time get some fine print going with that statement that says, "exemptions include human beings who have not yet exited the womb, Mentally disabled individuals such as Terri Schiavo and any others that the ACLU would like to rid the world of, Christians (especially the evangelicals), and gun owners practicing their 2nd ammendment rights. Also, rights are not guaranteed to be upheld by the ACLU if you are not a terrorist, murderer, or rapist. In addition, we reserve the right to pick and choose which constitutional rights to honor, omit ones we disagree with, and add new ones. These exceptions are void where prohibited by law but we plan to unsurp the citizens' and their elected lawmakers' rights by obtaining a court order from an unelected fascist federal judge to remove any laws that the ACLU and fellow leftist organizations disagree with." That would work for me. Then you are not blatantly lying. But then again it would be kind of embarassing and not politcially expedient to stop lying. I still think you guys should do it. I know it's addicting, but try to stop drinking the kool-aid and start thinking for yourselves. You can e-mail me at mrmackey797 at comcast.net and I will be glad to answer any questions or concerns you may have about what I've said here. Thanks!!


Thank you for defending liberty (most of the time (your brand new firearms position may be the only exception))! This is the only organization, except for maybe the Cato Institute, I can trust anymore. And for this, Anthony, you rock! Happy 4th!


Not only is the ACLU against the 2d amendment they are also 100% against the 1st amendment. The 1st amendment allows for the freedom of, not from, religion and the right to practice that religion. If you check the etymology of the word religion as to what it meant at the time of the constitution, it meant any CHRISTIAN denomination. They have lied through their teeth about the separation of church and state. It is not and never has been in the constitution. It is from a personal letter from President Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist. The Danbury Baptist were concerned about the possibility of a government church and that is what they were writing about. Jefferson's response was quite simple. He stated that their is a wall of separation between the church and government but continued to say that the wall is one direction. The government is to stay out of the church but the principles of the church need to permeate government. The first amendment only states that the government can not set up or run a religion and that it can not interfere with peoples practice of religion. The ACLU is demanding that this amendment be violated. They are steeped in revisionist history. I urge all to read the constitution and what it says and it will become quite evident that the ACLU violates the letter and the spirit of the first amendment.


The ACLU's stance on the Second Amendment makes no rational sense.

First, ALL rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are individual rights. One cannot collectively have the right to not incriminate oneself. There is no collectivization in being free from having soldiers quartered in our homes. The Freedoms of Speech, Religion and the Press are not guaranteed to society as a whole but to individuals therein. Both the writings of the Founding Fathers and the structure and language of the Bill of rights prove beyond all doubt that the function of the Bill is to defend our individual rights against the abuses perpetrated by an overbearing Government. There is no reason for the Second Amendment to be seen as being the only exception to this rule.

Second, the English language does NOT permit for a reasonable reading of the Second Amendment as guaranteeing a collective right. Orwell's "1984" notwithstanding, neither the ACLU nor the Supreme Court have the right to change the English language to fit their agenda.

Third, militias at the time of the framing of the Constitution were not organs of the State, the Government or Society. They were voluntary groupings of individuals who used their own private weapons in defense of their nation. The ACLU's reading of the Second Amendment would, in fact, have made the existence of the militias of the late 18th and early 19th Centuries impossible.

Finally, any quotes one can find by our Founding Fathers, the men who created the Constitution, including the Second Amendment, show that they cherished firearms and the individual right to own, carry and use them. Several examples follow.

"The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves... that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed..." Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson

"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." James Madison,The Federalist Papers, No. 46.

"The right of self-defense never ceases. It is among the most sacred, and alike necessary to nations and to individuals." James Madison

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States..." Noah Webster

"I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers." George Mason

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." Richard Henry Lee

"Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defence?" Patrick Henry

The ACLU is simply wrong and no amount of twisting of the truth or warping the english language will change that fact.

'Nuf said.

Ed A

Unfortunately, it seems that one way or another we will have a third term of George W. Bush.

Faced with Obama's decision this past week to appease George W. Bush and his conspiracy of criminals on warrantless spying of Americans and his decision to continue giving taxpayer money to favored churches, money that I would otherwise have contributed to his campaign has now gone to ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State. I fear that you will need it.

Peter Feldman

ALL Italian museums and the Prado Museum in Madrid discriminate against senior tourists. They give free admission to seniors who are citizens of the European Union only.
The European Commission says that there are not European Laws antidiscriminatives for third nation citizens.
This discrimination does not happen neither in Britain, France or Germany.
French museums do not give any free admission neither to French, Italian, Euriopean or American citizens. Italian museums give free admission to French seniors so they should give it also to American or Israeli seniors.
This discrimination is UNTHINKABLE in the United States, no American museum asks the nationality of the visitors. All museums of Germany gave me the senior deduction without asking me for my nationality. The Museum Reina Sofia in Madrid gives free admission to all seniors without discriminating by nationality.
An Italian man who works with me told me that there are many problems in Italy because of the mafia. I agree with him because discrimination of tourists for nationality is something proper of mafiosi.
If these discriminations occurred in Myanmar, North Korea or Iran there would be uproar that human rights of Americans were violated but since it happens in Italy it is the best kept secret in the World. WHY?
Do you know of any international forum where theses discriminations can be discussed?
Peter Feldman
139 East 33rd Street #7A
New York, NY 10016

lost freedoms

The ACLU is a hypocritical organization for it's stance on the 2nd amendment. To claim that you stand for our rights on the 4th of july wants to make me vomit. Take your "collective" rights to Russia or China where they belong


You forgot the right to keep and bear arms you bunch of hypocrites! As someone who has in the past defended the ACLU to conservative gun-owning friends, I couldn't be more appalled at your complete willful blindness when it comes to the second amendment. What a bunch of crap!

When was the last time that the ACLU thought that the Supreme Court went too far in protecting a civil right? Never?

You guys made a liar out of me, and you'll never get another cent of my money until your leadership gets some cents and disembarks from this mindless, liberal partisian trip they are on. Who cares if Diane Feinstein resigns her membership, the Supreme Court just confirmed for you that the right to keep and bear arms is protected in the Constitution. Now do your job and get busy defending it!

Get Real

IF you people screamed as much for the real dangers and perils to your rights instead of your indignance over perceived encroachments to the 2nd Amendment we would be in a far better place.
And as far as the rest of the narrowminded bigots that post here: Just once , this fourth of July try and actually read some of the case law and complaints that the ACLU have addressed instead of just blindly blathering the the tired Fox (S)News talking points.

And honestly--for all of the crap that you gun nuts spew--how many of you have actually made a lobby visit to your congressman or any elected representative. I am so sick of armchair activists--and the 2nd Amendment nuts are the worst .
Tell you what--do like the rest of us have done--join the ACLU, join your local program committee and make it a priority--oh wait, that would require real work and effort on your part. Scratch that--keep watching your reality TV and Fox News, the rest of us will work on the real dangers to the Constitution.
Now go polish your bullet, Barney.


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