Told You So: Florida's New Drug Testing Policy Already Costing Taxpayers More
We've told you a few times about Florida's horrible new law that drug tests all families applying for cash benefit welfare applicants. The law, which went into effect July 1, makes applicants front the cost of the drug test and reimburses individuals if they test negative.
The ACLU and others predicted this program would be a failure and cost the state of Florida much more money than they would save. Guess what? In just the few weeks that the program has been in effect we have been proven right.
The Department of Children and Families' central region has tested 40 applicants since the law went into effect six weeks ago, and of those 40 applicants, 38 tested negative for drugs. The cost to the state of Florida to reimburse those 38 individuals who tested negative was at least $1,140 over the course of six weeks. Meanwhile, denying benefits to the two applicants who tested positive will save Florida less than $240 a month.
The ironic thing is that Florida should know better. They ran a similar pilot program a decade ago but ended up scrapping it because it cost the state way more money than it saved.
Like many other states, Florida is broke. To save costs it is cutting good, successful programs like Healthy Start which provides prenatal care and parenting education. Why are they cutting budgets for programs that work, instead of ones that don't?
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Aug 23rd, 2011 at 1:08pm
If they tested all current members receiving benefits the failure would skyrocket.
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 1:31pm
How many people didn't apply lnowjn they wouldn't pass the test? I'd anyone else sick of opinion writers who post numbers as if theyve done their due diligence?
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 2:54pm
I agree...current members receiving benefits should be tested. There would be your number of positive tests!
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 2:56pm
Not true, Florida saves more than 100 percent of what it pays over the annual span of their budget. 240 a month is nearly 2880 a year thus SUCCESS.
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 3:55pm
I applaud Florida for what they're doing.....we drug-test those who work for their cash, so we should also test those who don't.
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 5:57pm
i agree, there should be random testing too! we'll see how many negatives then!
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 5:57pm
i agree, there should be random testing too! we'll see how many negatives then!
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 10:16pm
I believe that once the current case loads come up for re determination then we will see more of a savings.
Aug 23rd, 2011 at 11:15pm
At 240/month, it only takes 5 months and the state comes out ahead...
How often do the recipients have to drug test?
Aug 24th, 2011 at 12:12am
The only way this is failing is in not being required nationwide.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 12:31am
I would much rather my tax dollars be used for drug testing, than to allow someone without a job to buy them.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 12:53am
Um. So you've proved there is a 5-month ROI on this law. I don't think that counts as a hit.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 12:58am
i support this testing. the deadbeats abusing the system should find another way to get money for their fixes.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:07am
His wife owns the drug testing company, so the Gov is profiting off of this decision.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:12am
There's always some pessimist...
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:16am
#4: $240 a month "saved" over the course of a year ends up at $2880.
$1,140 over the course of six weeks winds up at $9880 spent.
Net loss: $7000
Mind you, this is with continuing trends, which are never a given. But seriously, please do ALL the math. This was a bad idea, and it continues to be a bad idea.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:25am
because the person who pushed for this bill to test all applicants, owns a lab that does drug testing. He is getting paid straight from the state coffers.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:30am
How are those who test positive suppose to subsist. Why not spend the money on treatment?
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:32am
When will Florida begin drug-testing public officials? Do they not receive public monies?
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:33am
why don't we drug test congress!
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:41am
yes and if they keep going with the same rate they're losing it will be around $13,680 which is quite a bit more than $2,880. so its not success its $10,800 lost. idiot.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:57am
You are allowing the government too much power. What's next? Search anyone who "looks" suspicious?
Or better yet, they will all drink now instead of puffing on a joint so the state makes the money off of it.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 2:07am
numbers 2-5 are idiots.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 2:21am
Random Drug Testing is the only real way to catch people and it's cheaper.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 5:20am
Statistically, the percentage of current recipients on drugs would be consistent with the percentage of new applicants that test positive. The only thing testing current applicants would achieve is wasting a massive amount of money.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 5:36am
The reason for doing so is not fiscal. It is punitive. They will not say it, but they believe unemployed people should be punished.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 5:56am
Florida is a cesspool.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 7:06am
One reason the program will not be canceled for the foreseeable future is Governor Rick Scott's wife owns the sole firm that Welfare recipients MUST use to test. This is not a safety check, it's a profit center to Scott.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 7:21am
"we drug-test those who work for their cash, so we should also test those who don't."
this is just ignorant.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 7:36am
You're a bunch of cowardly haters, hiding behind "Anonymous" so you can't be responded to individually. I hope you or your friends/family never find yourself in the situation of having to apply for aid or of suffering from addiction. Don't think it can't happen to you, because it can.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 7:50am
So, they spent $1140 to save $2880 during the six month probation on the two applicants that failed? Sounds like a good investment to me
Aug 24th, 2011 at 7:57am
To expect drug addicts to quit drugs to maintain their welfare checks is silly.
Lock your doors and carry a weapon 'cause they are going to get money somehow.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 9:24am
They need to make it a randomized test. Called up today, test tomorrow. If your a no-show your benefits are discontinued.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 10:18am
Where's your compassion folks? Do you really blame poor people for your problems, or are they just easier to beat up on than the wealthy elite who are sucking your blood every day?
Aug 24th, 2011 at 10:20am
It's painfully obvious that this ACLU hippy didn't major in accounting.
Two crackheads X 12 months x $240 per month = $5,760
Testing Costs = $1,140
Taypayer net savings = $4,620
Aug 24th, 2011 at 11:11am
Let's go ahead and drug test everyone. Before Johnny can go to 1st grade he has to make some lemonade.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 11:31am
Wow... you guys really hate poor people. You must be poor.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 11:41am
Seriously people, how many of you objecting to this program really work and pay a significant amount of taxes? Are you seriously impying that you WANT to be taxed to pay for programs that give cash to addicts?
Aug 24th, 2011 at 12:00pm
I dislike that the law targets a specific class of people. If everyone who applied for unemployment, or even everyone applying for any job were tested for illegal drugs that included over use of prescription drugs and employers were prosecuted or fined for hiring the positive testers, then it would be fair. Expensive, yes!
Aug 24th, 2011 at 12:28pm
According to my calculations if the state payed 1,140.00 to tset people and denied applicants at a savings of 240.00 per month thats 2,880.00 per year at a savings to the state of 1,740.00 it appears to me the the state is saving money. And I can't see the state paying 240. oer month for 2 people so am sure they are saving even more money than I have calulated. just sayin.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:05pm
Why don't we drug test the real parasites in today's society, Government and the CEOs.
Aug 24th, 2011 at 1:54pm
So, in six months it will compensate the cost.
Good deal
Aug 25th, 2011 at 12:01am
Fear mongering - Check
Red Herring - Check
Another way to waste taxpayers money - Check
Aug 25th, 2011 at 9:09am
I can see why our math test scores are among the lowest in the world.
Aug 25th, 2011 at 9:25am
I agree, the guy didn't do his math. Over time this will save tons of money
Aug 25th, 2011 at 2:55pm
"$240 a month "saved" over the course of a year ends up at $2880.
$1,140 over the course of six weeks winds up at $9880 spent.
Net loss: $7000
Do your math again, $1,140 over the course of six weeks is $1,140/6 (weeks) or $1,140/38 (recipients). You copied the text but didn't read it.
Aug 25th, 2011 at 6:07pm
Someone said why don't we drug test congress. Umm, we do. All federal employees are subjuect to drug testing. We drug test people before we give them a job why not before giving them welfare. Explain the difference to me.
Aug 25th, 2011 at 8:19pm
$1140 over the course of 6 weeks is $1140.
It took 6 weeks to spend it. It doesn't say PER it says OVER THE COURSE OF
Aug 26th, 2011 at 1:07am
If they press me about it, I'll submit to one of those hair tests. But they're gonna have to pluck it from their front teeth. ; )
Aug 26th, 2011 at 8:44am
Financially, this exactly like the State of Florida being able to buy 1 year bonds that yield 150% over that year.
This is an enormous money maker for the state.
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