May 4th, 2007
Posted by Gabe Rottman, ACLU Blogger at 3:36pm	National Security

The Cranky Fringe?

Andrew Sullivan on the Ron Paul habeas sighting:

And Ron Paul actually mentioned a minor issue called habeas corpus. It is depressing, isn't it, that the forces within the GOP that are now committed to individual liberty are on the cranky fringe. (italics in original)

Yes, it certainly is depressing that many of our Republican friends feel the need to talk hard and strike Jack Bauer poses in order to appear tough on [insert deviant, scary anti-social activity here]. That said, having worked with solid red-state-blooded conservatives in the past, I think there is a particular mindset on the right that transcends party or ideology, and which is enormously salutary for American justice and democracy. Ron Paul illustrated that let-us-alone spirit yesterday, and there are many, many other men and women with prized Ronald Reagan bobble-head dolls who feel the same way. The simple fact is, we here in America support individual liberties and limited government because we know that official overreaching is not limited to party or political orientation. Whether you like guns or choice, you know that any diminution of procedural rights for the accused greases up that steep slope. And I would reckon there is a large, perhaps silent, constituency on the right who rose up, even if only in their heads, with hosannas at Congressman Paul's defense of core American values. And to you, I say thank you.

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Tags: Close Guantanamo, detention, findhabeas, national security project

1. Anne Gibbs Says:
   May 4th, 2007 at 4:25pm

   The only problem is that Ron Paul's fight for core American values such as individual liberty and limited government is not going to be successful. We have reached the point, not only in our country but in the world, that we are heading down the road to a one-world fascist-type government with the elite freemasons in control. They are all set in key positions throughout the world and, unfortunately, this includes the Vatican and, believe me, their agenda is not democracy or a free republic. They needed the use of the US government and the Catholic Church to achieve this goal for their economic and military resources. Now that they have key figures in both these organizations, their agenda can progress. They also needed an excuse to start wearing away individual liberties including the implementation of a type of surveillance of American citizens to not only identify those who wouldn't "go along" but also to be able to thwart any opposition to the agenda. This excuse to start destroying individual liberties in this country was 911. It may have been planned by terrorists, but our government, plus key figures in other places including the Catholic Church, knew about it beforehand. Many people in this country have been convinced to go along with the plan, particularly in the Catholic Church. They've been promised economic advantages; small,elite communities; and also the possibility of many of the Church's teachings to be overturned (which is probably making alot of people reading this very happy). However, the elite, higher-level in control of this agenda doesn't have the general welfare of the world at heart. I've been afraid to type all of this up until now. But these were also the theories I was verbalizing and researching on-line prior to my so-called "arrest". I was researching it, not because I am a conspiracy theorist, but because I was trying to figure out why we were harassed everywhere we moved, particularly at Church.The one thing that each place of harassment had in common was that the people harassing us had masonic stickers or license plates on their cars or belonged to some type of masonic organization. We used to call it KKK country. Up until that point, I had no knowledge of the masonic lodge, so I decided to conduct my own research. The lower levels are usually made up of good-hearted people, but the higher levels are not. I know everyone reading this is rolling their eyes, that is why I have been trying to comment on these things in a round-about way in earlier comments. However, I don't care anymore who out there will call me a conspiracy theorist because there are alot of people out there who agree with me on this topic.I think the mainstream media is aware of government involvement in 911 but are not allowed to say because it's freemasons who control the corporate media throughout the world. The reason why I decided to write my entire theory now is that I was so upset about some of the comments made when I read the GOP Debate online. I realize that it is going to be virtually impossible to elect a leader without masonic ties and thus the road to Fascism is going to be travelled and the goal reached. The only way to stop the process is for ordinary citizens, not only from this country but the entire world, to wake up, see what is happening, and join together to prevent this. It's also going to take alot of prayer.If you search online and type in Leo Zagami (a former high-level mason), you can find a Google video of an interview of him conducted on currentissuestv.com by Dr. Zalawi. Everything he talked about I had learned reading books by a former Jesuit priest named Malachi Martin who had worked in the Vatican and left the Jesuit order because of corruption he had discovered in the higher positions of the Vatican. This did not include John Paul I or John Paul II. In fact I think these two people were hurt by these freemasons in the Vatican. You can believe this comment or not. I just feel that I finally needed to type my entire theory at last. In earlier comments, I mentioned their (meaning the higher level masons) disdain for labor unions and socialized medicine, and their desire to conduct preemptive strikes on hostile (or should I say non-cooperative) regimes. These things are only some of many that they need to legislate in order to have total economic and military control of the world. The push for segregation is also a control thing. If you place people in separate groups, you actually diminish their power, not increase it: thus, giving a one-world government more control.

2. Anne Gibbs Says:
   May 5th, 2007 at 7:52am

   I want to add one more comment to the one above. It wasn't just some Republicans or some Democrats or some part of the Church that put us in prison. It was the entire masonic organization as a whole, and they know it. You can call them Masons, or the Mob, or the KKK. To me, it's all one and the same. Ask Peter King from NJ when he taunted me with a masonic hand signal last summer on C-Span. All I have been doing is trying to find a leader who doesn't have masonic ties or if he/she does that it is on the lower levels only because I have a feeling there is no leader out there that doesn't have masonic ties.

3. Anne Gibbs Says:
   May 5th, 2007 at 3:41pm

   I need to correct something I wrote in the above comment. The interview of Leo Zagami was conducted by Dr. Tillowi not Zalawi.

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